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Post by aero63 on Dec 2, 2009 12:54:51 GMT -5
Grab a coffee or juice and sit in those big comfy chairs and let's get to talkin'.
I hope all enjoyed the short readings this time around.
I personally just cannot stomach Clyde Early. He is just way to sneaky for me. I do not like his tactics and I am so glad that MacKingsley doesn't seem to favor him either. Walsh is irking me as well. I don't know how all of you feel about these characters.
Whoever is doing these malicious and murderous deeds, knows that Celia will find them herself, or be told about the newspaper clippings. I think they are meant to rattle her, make her seem unbalanced, which is a very real fear she has. I don't think they are meant to point her out as a suspect in the deeds. Wat does everyone else think about these strategically placed clippings or pictures?
Do you think that Robin is still seeing Ted? Or maybe she is playing two sides of the fence and seeing two influential men.
Charley, well, he just shouldn't have opened his mouth about the changing of clothes and carvings missing.
What do we think Benjamin Fletcher's reaction will be to Celia? I can't really tell if he believed her, or wanted to believe that she didn't intentionally kill her mother. I haven't been able to feel that guy out yet. At least not from the conversation he had with Dru.
When Celia was paid a visit by Walsh and MacKingsley, I do believe, like Celia, she left a door wide open in telling where she was at (Riding Club). Or, at the very least, more reason for them to investigate her.
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Post by Blossom/Jackie W. on Dec 3, 2009 14:48:00 GMT -5
Hmmmmm...... gotta "rethink" here Aero as to where I was...
Charley's in deep doo doo . He alsmost strikes me as not a "simpleton" BUT........ he's buyable and gullable. Not good (for him) I don't think)
Gotta think a bit more on some of the characters as well .....
I almost have to revert to what I originally was saying about Celia being forced into either "suicide" or "showing her up" as a mental case. Frankly there's only a few reasons that can happen.....
She's truly ill (mentally unbalanced) and I don't think she is Sex Money Power
Sometimes a combination of...... (I'm not referring to her, but those involved or around her)
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Post by mary57 on Dec 5, 2009 10:47:17 GMT -5
I too had to think about this, must try to read chapters on Tues. so can remember on Wed.
I agree with you Jackie, about someone trying to unbalance Celia, but it would be for money, or rather the control of hers.
Zack is blackmailing Ted, so will he be next to die??
Charlie was just simple and was used, whoever (Ted?) was useing him decided that he was too much of a risk to stay alive, especially when the clothes and carvings went 'missing'
Both Clyde and Walsh are sneaky and not above bending the facts to fit their idea of how things should look.
Celia does seem to be right there when things happen, coincidence or??? Had this wild idea last night that she might actually be the one doing the killing...but can't make it fit, must go back and read some parts again.
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Post by susanny on Dec 5, 2009 12:36:12 GMT -5
Between Walsh and Early, we are dealing with two different types of bad cops. I wonder how many true life people are put away because of the thinking of Walsh. Just don't like the guy. As was said by Dru's boss, why hasn't Kingsley gotten rid of him long ago. Early is just ready to get evidence and get it any way he can. He's another on who should have been fired long ago. You can't keep having evidence thrown out of court.
Charlie. Poor dummy. For some reason, and I'm only going by how the book is written, I think that the person having him to this might be a woman. Or at least a woman working with either Ted or Alex. Do I think that Robin is still dating Ted? I'm not sure, I think she may even be on her own. Or, maybe she's the one in cahoots with Alex. I still get a bad feeling about Alex. He's too good to be true.
I think the lawyer always was on Celia's side. He's sure she didn't kill her mother on purpose, and I don't think he feels any love towards Ted. Ted's a scumbag, by the way. The lawyer picked that up for sure by the "other girlfriend's" testimony.
Ted was out to ruin Celia's mother's marriage right from the start. She came from money and that's what's driving him. Although he was well on his way to making his own money while she was still married. But he's got a super big ego and just might not have wanted to believe she could really love someone other than him. He took every advantage of his and Celia's mother's love of horseback riding to be with her. Made the father feel pressure to learn to ride.
Zach knows something, obviously. I wish Celia could remember what she overheard her mother and Ted arguing about the night of the shooting. One of these rides with him is going to make it click for her. Maybe he was in it together with someone to cause the accident with the father. He's a blackmailer or an accomplice.
Need to do some rereading, too. I don't think that Celia's doing any of the pranks, newspaper postings, or killing. Somebody is definitely trying to get her outed, and to drive her to be incompetent. I worry about Jack if this happens. What will happen to him if the person, Alex?, only wants the money, as he will be the one with the money then.
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Post by aero63 on Dec 9, 2009 21:37:56 GMT -5
Lots of good responses. Yep, I am tending not to remember to much of what I read right now, but the book seems to moving at fast pace and bringing new ideas and characters into play.
Whoever Robin is with now (dating) it was definitely not someone Georgette would have approved of.
Good thought about Celia being the suspect in all the crimes, kinda like someone that thinks someone else is doing the crimes, but is so unstable it is they themselves that are doing the crimes. Schizophrenia?
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Post by aero63 on Dec 10, 2009 20:57:14 GMT -5
I thought for the next reading we could do chapters 46 through 56. That is pages 292 through 351. The next meeting and discussion would be on Thursday the 17th. Is this good for everyone?
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Post by mary57 on Dec 11, 2009 9:57:46 GMT -5
Sounds good to me.
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Post by susanny on Dec 11, 2009 11:08:52 GMT -5
Perfect. Thanks for keeping this up. You've had so much to deal with personally.
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Post by aero63 on Dec 11, 2009 21:16:26 GMT -5
Okie Dokie then.
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Post by Blossom/Jackie W. on Dec 14, 2009 7:52:30 GMT -5
Sounds good to me.....
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Post by susanny on Dec 14, 2009 12:14:31 GMT -5
This is really getting better from the good it already was. Good read, but I'm not going to give anything away.
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